Curse

pumpkin pie · Jul 17, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44

This is a very basic fun build that works quite effectively in Normal Mode map in area where you have poison-able foes

Hello, I want to share with you my ranger and her heros build, I think this is the best one I've use so far, first you will need to charm pets for your heros. Because this is a build where you pets act as your melee or meat shield. The basis of this build is to spread as wide as possible poison to as many foes as possible in the shortest amount of time. Sending out pets properly can help achieve this. I've notice, caster will often cast on Devona, cos she run the fastest, when pets goes into range they will be targeted next, leaving you ample of time to quickly spread around the poisons.

I basically tested this outside Doomslore and Eyes in normal mode sorry I was excited to share and failed to mention its for NM, so there are Charrs, mandragor, pine, imps, whisp, Avalanch and elements, the ocassional wurms are easy.

First thing first, basically you have to lay down and keep all the necessary spirits and preparations up at all time if possible.

whisp: target the closest. Easy, kill first one then the next and the next

the imps: target the closest using "\". While your h/h is on the first target, quickly tab and infect the second imps interrupt if its casting maelstorm, quickly switch back to the first target using this "\" so h/h won't change target, poison arrow it once more even if its already poison lol 5 energy won't kill you, then quickly tab tab (twice) to the third target infect it, or interrupt depending on what skill it is using, then switch back as before, because we want to disable as many maelstorm as possible.

Avalanche: must kill this first, you cannot poison these, just keep interrupting, it'll die pretty fast, and this is where pets comes in useful, Avalanche will use its shatterstone on pets instead of you and your h/h, if you are fast, using tab and "\" you will be able to interrupt it. (trick, is unfortunately if you have less then 50% health, its useless to run lol, so do not run when you get hit by maelstorm, running will stop Mhenlo and Lina from healing you, because they run too, and while running they can't heal, hence everyone dies, stay calm in the same place and wait it out, if you have above 50% health, keep fighting, Mhenlo and Lina isn't all that bad)

When there are 2 Avalanche in a group switch back and forth between them to interrupt what ever skill they try to cast, most take long casting time, so its pretty easy to interrupt.

Mandragor, kill the necro first if possible, and stay alert, as these uses traps, interrupt them as they like to burrow to you and lay their traps.

Charrs,
1) all ranger charr group - let hero work on one while you tab and "\" to infects the others

2) ele + monk + mesmer + necro + ranger + warrior + group - kill in that order. interrupt ele 2x firestorm and meteor, if it does not dies (it should in my test) you go on to monk, cos meteor takes long to recharge once interupt) if it dies, don't go to monk, you switch to mesmer/Dominator, because they ressurect, if you take down the ele and the mesmer, the rest are easy. take down the monk, then the necro, the ranger, then warrior. If you take down monk, then switch to Dominator/mesmer, to interrupt the res, quickly switch to ele cos i think they res too, while the h/h is on the mesmer.

Please give me feedback as to how this can be improve, especially on the mesmer, a good discussion is always welcome.

Choice of Hench are: Zho, Devona, Mhenlo and Lina (this is while i am in EotN, where Zho is an interrupt ranger, in places where Zho isn't an interrupt ranger you take Deaman I think he is the interrupt ranger in the Jade sea area. Take Cynn elsewhere, wherever shes available. )

Your Ranger character uses this [build=OgATcZMm1hyoaeM+Wsjvx0sZAA]
Ranger hero uses this [build=OgATYHMn5hy0bfNqmnTxx3sZAA]
Necro hero uses this [build=OAJTUYzaNapqKANQNIBE4azoqCA]
Mesmer hero uses this [build=OQJUAUBPQrIuNHMDFBRkBbmAAA]

Always take heros that have the best equipments.

Ressurect skill is not included in most of the above build. If you want to pack one, change your rangers build to Monk Secondary and bring Rebirth, replace the one you think is the least useful, for instant, lightning reflexes on Margrid.

I am going to test out something with the splinter and epidemic, will update the build when I have them tested.

And i think I should test some more

Anticipated Question:
why so many interrupt: its a by chance discovery, all the foes basically can't cast anything with this h/h build and dies pretty fast, I suspect the AI sometimes goes off and interrupt other foes that you did not command them to target. time the foes dies is a comparison between using my ele with 2 necros nad gwen, and this one kills roughly 40% faster, I did not time myself, its a feeling from experience. so...

why so many poison: i use another build where only the necro heros has rotting flesh and poison stuffs and the successful kill times is relatively slower. so i think the many poison arrow must have help. I switch to glass arrows while Ranger Hero have incendiary + concussion, taking out both poison arrow from myself and Ranger Hero. It could also be because I am more use to using poison arrow hence the effectiveness.

kratimas · Jul 17, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Like the looks of it, might just give it a try.

One question why do you and your hero carry Poison Arrow?
I think I would let the hero carry that and I would take Burning Arrow for even more degen with burning.

But hey as long as it works should be fun.

Krat

distilledwill · Jul 17, 2008, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Interesting, although I kinda think that your ranger heroes' build looks a bit superfluous seeing as you've already got a PA ranger (you!), you might want to change her to be a [[Burning Arrow] ranger, just to alter the conditions.

Lots of pets + winnowing is interesting but I might consider switching the mesmer out for a curses necro so you can have [[Barbs] and [[Splinter Weapon] in there to add a bit of BOOOOOOOOOM to your beasts.

pumpkin pie · Jul 17, 2008, 12:45 PM // 12:45

lol true true, and the answer is kratimas, i have a special liking for poison arrows. hehehe,

[poison arrow] [savage shot] and [distracting shot] is the 3 main that is always on my ranger, and the rest is changeable, i think i should use take up your advise and use something else for a change like burning arrow and other stuffs.

Marverick · Jul 17, 2008, 01:29 PM // 13:29

put [Apply Poison] on one and [Barbed Arrow] on the other Ranger... don't need to waste your elite

Washi · Jul 17, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Pets with no points in beast mastery... When will people stop gimping themselves with that? I guess you like wasting skill slots and you love to blackout yourself... nice.

Oh and 3 bad elite choices, only your mm has a decent one.

Let me ask you a question... Is this build for normal mode?

zwei2stein · Jul 17, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I would replace mesmer with curse necro to boost your physicals more and provide more defense as well as replacing margrid with paragon for same reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washi

Pets with no points in beast mastery... When will people stop gimping themselves with that? I guess you like wasting skill slots and you love to blackout yourself... nice.

Oh and 3 bad elite choices, only your mm has a decent one.

Let me ask you a question... Is this build for normal mode?

People sometimes like to play thematic builds (and awfull lot of them goes for all pet build for some reason) ... its called playing for fun.

As long as they dont whine about stuff being too hard or about being rejects in elite missions, its ok

DarkSpirit · Jul 17, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Is this only for NM? I dont see anything for party defense, besides meat shields. Interesting that Gwen is carrying the res, it looks like if there is a problem she probably would be the first to die among the four.

aleaf92 · Jul 17, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

[Broad Head Arrow][Epidemic][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot]
This is a good starting point for a hero ranger. Might need some micro-ing to use [Epidemic] effectively.

[Barrage][Save Yourselves!][For Great Justice][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Serpent's Quickness][Dwarven Stability]
This is a good starting point for the player.

[Jagged Bones][Death Nova][Animate Bone Minions][BoTM][Signet of Lost Souls][ancestor's rage][splinter weapon]
This what your MM should be.

payne · Jul 17, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

big big prob - your reliant on monk hench ()...thats a floor IMO!

JONO51 · Jul 17, 2008, 04:40 PM // 16:40

If you're having a few rangers, why not use [[ebon battle standard of honor], as barbs and splinter as have been suggested. Would make damage crazy lol

Washi · Jul 17, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

People sometimes like to play thematic builds (and awfull lot of them goes for all pet build for some reason) ... its called playing for fun.

I like pets, I understand people playing with 4 pets for fun.

But bringing pets with no beast mastery is kinda stupid (no offence). Do you bring woh with no points in healing prayers? No? why not, it's the same thing, wasted slot.

Get 3 ranger heroes, give them all spearchucker or thumper builds and you will have your fun plus your team will be somewhat effective.

pumpkin pie · Jul 18, 2008, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washi

Pets with no points in beast mastery... When will people stop gimping themselves with that? I guess you like wasting skill slots and you love to blackout yourself... nice.

Oh and 3 bad elite choices, only your mm has a decent one.

Let me ask you a question... Is this build for normal mode?

yes, only for normal mode where you can find lots of bodies, thanks, i was gonna do an edit

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aleaf92

[Broad Head Arrow][Epidemic][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot]
This is a good starting point for a hero ranger. Might need some micro-ing to use [Epidemic] effectively.

[Barrage][Save Yourselves!][For Great Justice][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Serpent's Quickness][Dwarven Stability]
This is a good starting point for the player.

[Jagged Bones][Death Nova][Animate Bone Minions][BoTM][Signet of Lost Souls][ancestor's rage][splinter weapon]
This what your MM should be.

Thanks for this necro with the splinter build and reminding me of epidemic.

aleaf92 · Jul 18, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10308345

Post #4 looks pretty good.